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'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;:  
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;:  


* {{DateAndTimeCom|2011|05|17|16|30|Tuesday}} (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
* {{DateAndTimeCom|2011|06|07|16|30|Tuesday}} (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]
'''Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!'''
'''Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!'''
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== Agenda  ==
== Agenda  ==


*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''Bwinton'''  
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''sancus'''  
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
* [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?mode=agenda&src=5m2lftdbbr6c3dr9s3foivs278%40group.calendar.google.com Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
* Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!
* Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!


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Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!
Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!


=== New Thunderbird Managing Director, JB Piacentino ===
* started yesterday June 6, 2011
* based in Paris, France
* background: product management, business development, mobile, startups
* met California team in Mountain View on Monday, meeting team in Vancouver 3 days this week, Toronto, end of week and then European folks


=== Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) ===
=== Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) ===
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===== [[Thunderbird/Experiments#Account_Provisioner|Account Provisioner]] =====
===== [[Thunderbird/Experiments#Account_Provisioner|Account Provisioner]] =====
* No progress in development.
* The providers all preferred the old design to the new provider-first design, so we'll go with that, as long as the privacy review agrees.
* Bwinton sent mockups of new provider-first design to providers.
* Contracts are moving forward.


===== OpenSearch =====
===== OpenSearch =====
* We're hoping to rope squib into doing some work on it. ;)
* Squib has fixed a number of bugs, and bwinton needs to respond to his pull request…
* The current list of issues is at https://github.com/mozilla/opensearch/issues


==== [[Thunderbird/Experiments|Experiments]] ====
==== [[Thunderbird/Experiments|Experiments]] ====
Blake to start taking a look at this instead of clarkbw
===== Thunderbird Conversations =====


===== Thunderbird Conversations =====
* All blocking bugs for b1 resolved. Waiting on the translators to finish before submitting to AMO.
* New branch that allows you to comment on a bug directly from the quick reply area, assuming you are viewing a bugmail thread. Will merge to master after b1 is out. Works pretty great!
* More polish, as always. Thunderbird work to enhance the interaction. Finally fixed (Thunderbird side) the long standing bug of the IMIP bar that would never disappear.
* See https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues?sort=created&direction=desc&state=open&page=1 if you want to give a hand.


===== Compose in a tab =====
===== Compose in a tab =====
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===== Account Summary =====
===== Account Summary =====
* Really (really!) close to a 1.0 release, just cleaning up a few things and closing out the last issues
* Folder/account summaries now listen to events in order to stay up-to-date


===== Ubuntu Unity Integration =====
===== Ubuntu Unity Integration =====
* EDS integration work is going full steam ahead
* De-RDF'ing patch should be up on Bugzilla by the end of the day. Woo!
** De-RDF'ing of the Address Book is starting to pay off - I've created a new type of address book, purely in Javascript.
* We've hit a minor roadblock wrt space on the Ubuntu O CD - the Canonical folk are still unsure whether or not there will be space for TB for this cycle (it doesn't sound like there will be), perhaps sharing libxul with Firefox will help
** The de-RDF'ing patch needs to be landed before July 5th if it's going to make it to Ubuntu in time for us to make use of the EDS integration add-on.
* EDS contact integration still moving forward.  I'm adding hooks to make the address book contact editor more extendable.
** Address books are showing up - need to get contacts displaying properly, and we'll be in good shape.
* There's a weekly meeting with the Canonical folk on Wednesdays, 9AM EST, in #thunderbird-unity on Freenode.
* We'll hear back about disk space by June 2nd.


==== Schedule and Progress ====
==== Schedule and Progress ====


Version number changes being discussed on tb-planning.
These numbers aren't on AMO yet.




===== Miramar =====
===== Thunderbird 5 (Miramar) =====


Prepping first beta.
* [http://mzl.la/tb_50b1 Thunderbird 5.0 first beta released]
For Miramar tracking, use TB3.3 flags.
* Working on final blockers and l10n approvals for second and final planned beta.
* Hoping to start build soon after 23:59 PDT on Wednesday 8th, will release as soon as we're ready.
* 5.* has been added to AMO, doing a blog post for extensions later today.


===== Miramar.next =====
===== Thunderbird 6 =====
* Now on aurora channel.
* Tree is [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Thunderbird-Aurora aurora tree] green.
* Once we [http://groups.google.com/group/tb-planning/browse_frm/thread/9d4b37dd52692b32 finalise the name], we'll start nightly builds - hopefully Thursday or Friday.
* We have approval-comm-aurora, tracking flags are on their way, details coming to tb-planning soon.


We have approval-comm-aurora, but no tracking flags yet.
===== Thunderbird 7 =====
 
* Currently on comm-central.


===== Thunderbird 3.1.x =====
===== Thunderbird 3.1.x =====
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=== Extension of the week ===
=== Extension of the week ===
* [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/attachment-manager/ Attachment Manager] developed by a student from the National University of Singapore, changes the way you deal with attachment. A demo video is [http://youtu.be/TZD3F_ifIc0 visible].
* [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/identity-chooser/ Identity Chooser] : is an extension useful when you have [http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/using-identities identities] (or email aliases) on one mail account, you sometime send emails with the wrong From:. With this extension installed it should never happen again.


=== [[Thunderbird:Testing|QA]] Updates ===
=== [[Thunderbird:Testing|QA]] Updates ===
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=== Marketing Updates ===
=== Marketing Updates ===
* Thunderbird ADUs: from 6.6MM to 7.0MM, ~40% of US users didn't check email yesterday due to holiday.
* PR Update: Over 20 articles for the Thunderbird Beta release, [http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/259630,thunderbird-conversations-brings-threaded-emails-and-more-to-mozilla8217s-email-client.aspx 1], [http://opensource.cbronline.com/news/mozilla-releases-first-thunderbird-5-beta-060611 2], [http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Thunderbird-5-0-arrives-in-Beta-channel-skips-4-0-1254583.html 3], [http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2076158/mozilla-fires-thunderbird-beta 4]
* Prep for 5.0b1
* Thunderbird ADUs: still at 7MM ADUs w/ 86.7% on latest major release; ~75k average downloads per day
* Continuing web site work.  Got homepage designs/illustrations from Reach, getting feedback and working on other pages.
* Continuing web design work, in review.


=== Infrastructure Update  ===
=== Infrastructure Update  ===
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=== Build / Release Update ===
=== Build / Release Update ===


* Working through issues with Thunderbird 5.0b1 signing/updates. Will announce build ASAP.
* Thunderbird 5.0b1 build 2 pushed to test channels.  Pushing 3.1.10->5.0b1 major updates to beta channel soon.
* Final beta build this week


=== Web Update ===
=== Web Update ===
* Tracked down some intermittent kitsune bugs, merged l10n stuff
* working on merging parts of mozillamessaging.com into mozilla.org
* Still working on AMO discovery pane bug, should be done this week
* finishing up AMO patch, took longer than expected!
* Octopuses rule.


=== Documentation ===
=== Documentation ===


* TB 5 documentation
* [http://openhelpconference.com/index.html Open Help conference]
* contact with Vancouver Ubuntu user group (per Roland's suggestions)
** [http://blogs.mozillamessaging.com/docs/ blog post]
* get involved with Mozilla community engagement group
** [http://www.slideshare.net/jenzed/coordinating-documentation-and-support-turning-complaints-into-contributions my talk]
* start integrating Thunderbird into Mozilla community engagement pages
* Thunderbird 5
** [https://support-stage.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/new-thunderbird-5 New in TB 5 on staging site]
** other articles and updates go live today
* ongoing updates regarding updating Mozilla's engagement sites and pages (integrating Thunderbird)


=== [[Thunderbird/Support|Support]] ===
=== [[Thunderbird/Support|Support]] ===
(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please [https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-support-crew subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list] and briefly introduce yourself to the list)
(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please [https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-support-crew subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list] and briefly introduce yourself to the list)
# 1231 new support topics (1239 last week) - [[Media:30May-5June2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png]]
# 1231 new support topics (1239 last week) - [[Media:30May-5June2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png]]
# SuMoMo migration to Kitsune KB migration done! Check it out at [http://support.mozillamessaging.com support.mozillamessaging.com]. [https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/forums/site-issues/6?last=26#post-26 All locales with significant localization have been "Thunderbird"-ized] (if your locale is missing, love to have your locale! Please post to our [https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/forums/site-issues/6 remaining locales to be localized Kitsune forum] and email rtanglao AT mozilla.com). Future improvements are being tracked in {{bug|645198|bug 645198: Q2 Kitsune improvments bug}}
# [https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2011/06/02/thunderbird-beta-now-available/ Thunderbird 5 Beta 1 is out]! [http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/forums/knowledge-base-articles Would love some help with contributors to write some knowledge base articles]. No experience required, just a copy of Thunderbird and the ability to write in English or translate. We'll polish up your writing and make it sing!
# [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues|3.1 Support Issues]]
# See [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-06-07/SupportAppendix|this week's Support Appendix]] for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details
# See [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-05-31/SupportAppendix|this week's Support Appendix]] for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details


=== Lightning Updates ===
=== Lightning Updates ===
* Low number of blockers left, the remaining ones can be postponed to the next release if needed
* l10n sign-off completes today, around 30 locales will be ready
* We need a strategy for the new branching/release schedules. Lightning can't handle 3 branches!
* comm-central unit testers waiting on some core bugs
* Testing, testing, testing...


=== Status Updates ===
=== Status Updates ===
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=== Attendees  ===
=== Attendees  ===


mconley, bwinton, bienvenu, standard8, usul, gozer, jhopkins, rolandtanglao, rebron, jenzed, sancus
jhopkins, jb, davida, jenzed, ludo, rolandtanglao,standard8 aka Mark Banner, gozer, rebron, bievenu, mconley, bwinton, sancus, andreasn, fallen aka Philipp Kewisch, wmswk aka Wayne Mery


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Latest revision as of 05:40, 14 June 2011

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Current Release Schedules
Thunderbird 5.0 Final Beta Thunderbird 3.1.11
ETA: end of week
  • Builds start: 13 June
  • QA with builds start: 14 June
  • Beta period starts: 14/15 June
  • Final release: 21 June


Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who's taking minutes? --> sancus
  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

New Thunderbird Managing Director, JB Piacentino

  • started yesterday June 6, 2011
  • based in Paris, France
  • background: product management, business development, mobile, startups
  • met California team in Mountain View on Monday, meeting team in Vancouver 3 days this week, Toronto, end of week and then European folks

Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project)

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner
  • The providers all preferred the old design to the new provider-first design, so we'll go with that, as long as the privacy review agrees.
  • Contracts are moving forward.
OpenSearch

Experiments

Blake to start taking a look at this instead of clarkbw

Thunderbird Conversations
  • All blocking bugs for b1 resolved. Waiting on the translators to finish before submitting to AMO.
  • New branch that allows you to comment on a bug directly from the quick reply area, assuming you are viewing a bugmail thread. Will merge to master after b1 is out. Works pretty great!
  • More polish, as always. Thunderbird work to enhance the interaction. Finally fixed (Thunderbird side) the long standing bug of the IMIP bar that would never disappear.
  • See https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues?sort=created&direction=desc&state=open&page=1 if you want to give a hand.
Compose in a tab
Thunderbird Sync
Account Summary
  • Really (really!) close to a 1.0 release, just cleaning up a few things and closing out the last issues
  • Folder/account summaries now listen to events in order to stay up-to-date
Ubuntu Unity Integration
  • De-RDF'ing patch should be up on Bugzilla by the end of the day. Woo!
  • We've hit a minor roadblock wrt space on the Ubuntu O CD - the Canonical folk are still unsure whether or not there will be space for TB for this cycle (it doesn't sound like there will be), perhaps sharing libxul with Firefox will help
  • EDS contact integration still moving forward. I'm adding hooks to make the address book contact editor more extendable.

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 5 (Miramar)
  • Thunderbird 5.0 first beta released
  • Working on final blockers and l10n approvals for second and final planned beta.
  • Hoping to start build soon after 23:59 PDT on Wednesday 8th, will release as soon as we're ready.
  • 5.* has been added to AMO, doing a blog post for extensions later today.
Thunderbird 6
  • Now on aurora channel.
  • Tree is aurora tree green.
  • Once we finalise the name, we'll start nightly builds - hopefully Thursday or Friday.
  • We have approval-comm-aurora, tracking flags are on their way, details coming to tb-planning soon.
Thunderbird 7
  • Currently on comm-central.
Thunderbird 3.1.x
  • Next release ETA June 21.
  • Bug Lists: 3.1

Extension of the week

  • Identity Chooser : is an extension useful when you have identities (or email aliases) on one mail account, you sometime send emails with the wrong From:. With this extension installed it should never happen again.

QA Updates

  • Worked on TB 5.0b1

Marketing Updates

  • PR Update: Over 20 articles for the Thunderbird Beta release, 1, 2, 3, 4
  • Thunderbird ADUs: still at 7MM ADUs w/ 86.7% on latest major release; ~75k average downloads per day
  • Continuing web design work, in review.

Infrastructure Update

Build / Release Update

  • Thunderbird 5.0b1 build 2 pushed to test channels. Pushing 3.1.10->5.0b1 major updates to beta channel soon.
  • Final beta build this week

Web Update

  • working on merging parts of mozillamessaging.com into mozilla.org
  • finishing up AMO patch, took longer than expected!

Documentation

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

  1. 1231 new support topics (1239 last week) - Media:30May-5June2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png
  2. Thunderbird 5 Beta 1 is out! Would love some help with contributors to write some knowledge base articles. No experience required, just a copy of Thunderbird and the ability to write in English or translate. We'll polish up your writing and make it sing!
  3. See this week's Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

  • Low number of blockers left, the remaining ones can be postponed to the next release if needed
  • l10n sign-off completes today, around 30 locales will be ready
  • We need a strategy for the new branching/release schedules. Lightning can't handle 3 branches!
  • comm-central unit testers waiting on some core bugs
  • Testing, testing, testing...

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Can we get some of the FF info around release numbers, to answer some of the questions we're getting.

Canary might be available in less than a month.

Attendees

jhopkins, jb, davida, jenzed, ludo, rolandtanglao,standard8 aka Mark Banner, gozer, rebron, bievenu, mconley, bwinton, sancus, andreasn, fallen aka Philipp Kewisch, wmswk aka Wayne Mery


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