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== Schedule Update == | == Schedule Update == | ||
* We are in our [https://mail.mozilla.com/home/akeybl@mozilla.com/Release%20Management.html second week of the cycle] - Firefox 14 Beta 7 and Fennec Native Beta 7 will both be going to build | * We are in our [https://mail.mozilla.com/home/akeybl@mozilla.com/Release%20Management.html second week of the cycle] - Firefox 14 Beta 7 and [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/beta7gtb Fennec Native Beta 7] will both be going to build this afternoon | ||
* Please continue to prioritize '''[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox14&type0-1-0=notequals&value0-4-0=verified&list_id=2013297&field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox14&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox14&type0-4-0=notequals&value0-3-0=unaffected&query_format=advanced&value0-2-0=fixed&value0-1-0=wontfix&type0-3-0=notequals&field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox14&field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox14&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B&type0-2-0=notequals tracked FF14 bugs]''' over [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox15&type0-1-0=notequals&value0-4-0=verified&list_id=2013297&field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox15&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox15&type0-4-0=notequals&value0-3-0=unaffected&query_format=advanced&value0-2-0=fixed&value0-1-0=wontfix&type0-3-0=notequals&field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox15&field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox15&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B&type0-2-0=notequals tracked FF15 bugs] over work landing on m-c | * Please continue to prioritize '''[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox14&type0-1-0=notequals&value0-4-0=verified&list_id=2013297&field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox14&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox14&type0-4-0=notequals&value0-3-0=unaffected&query_format=advanced&value0-2-0=fixed&value0-1-0=wontfix&type0-3-0=notequals&field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox14&field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox14&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B&type0-2-0=notequals tracked FF14 bugs]''' over [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox15&type0-1-0=notequals&value0-4-0=verified&list_id=2013297&field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox15&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox15&type0-4-0=notequals&value0-3-0=unaffected&query_format=advanced&value0-2-0=fixed&value0-1-0=wontfix&type0-3-0=notequals&field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox15&field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox15&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B&type0-2-0=notequals tracked FF15 bugs] over work landing on m-c | ||
* The FF13 post-mortem will be held next Tuesday at 9AM PT | * The FF13 post-mortem will be held next Tuesday at 9AM PT | ||
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== Stability == | == Stability == | ||
===Aurora=== | ===Aurora=== | ||
*{{bug|753248}} crash in coreclr with Silverlight applications with builds made on OS X 10.7 (Lion) | |||
** Shows Firefox as unaffected for 14 but crashes in Firefox 14 b1 are in crash stats. | |||
===Beta=== | ===Beta=== | ||
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=== QAwanted === | === QAwanted === | ||
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* {{Bug|746036}} - exploratory testing needed with yahoo/trustee | |||
* {{Bug|761990}} - feedback button not displayed correctly | |||
===Verification Needed=== | ===Verification Needed=== | ||
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===Beta=== | ===Beta=== | ||
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* {{Bug|759689}}, {{bug|763459}} - Real Player prevent Flash 11.3 from loading | |||
== RelEng == | == RelEng == | ||
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== Marketing/Communications == | == Marketing/Communications == | ||
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Have put Fx13 comms on hold while we're considering chem spill (Facebook, Twitter, Email) | |||
== Support == | == Support == | ||
Input isn't showing feedback for pre-release versions, so release feedback: (Trying to get it fixed for thursday). | |||
=== Issues === | |||
'''Flash crash/won't load:''' 7 of our top 20 forum issues are flash [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/759565] [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions?sort=requested] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/?product=firefox&sentiment=sad&date_end=2012-06-12&date_start=2012-06-05&version=13.0&q=%28youtube%29|%28flash%29] | |||
'''Hotmail inbox/loading:''' | |||
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762170] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/3000432] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2998781] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2998327] | |||
'''Yahoo forced to sign in over and over:''' | |||
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763607] | |||
[https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/927114] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/3000125] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2999087] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2996926] | |||
'''SPDY Issues: ''' | |||
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762162] | |||
[https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/928731] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2998766] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2995298] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2994344] | |||
'''Thumbnails are blank:''' Possibly just a user education issue | |||
[https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/926742] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2999266] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2997250] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2991237] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2999987] | |||
=== Features === | |||
'''New Tab:''' Generally unfavorable due in part to user education as displayed here "I submitted sad feedback because I want blank page when opening new tab. Should have read help first. Past history now turned off now very happy thanks Firefox" | |||
'''Bad: 76%''' | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/3000346] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2999974] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2999714] | |||
'''Love it: 10%''' | |||
* Hey, Your new view with the tabs, I love it! I switched to Safari b/c of this, but now I'm back! Great change! | |||
* Love the new tab setup!!! Smart/great thinken | |||
* the new tab feature is GREAT | |||
* Firefox just updated and when I went to open a new tab I saw the new feature where the sites I visit frequently are displayed on the screen as an option to be selected from. What a great idea it is to include this. Thanks. | |||
'''Improvements: 10%''' | |||
"Can we make the new tab interface more configurable? I want the option to load my home page when opening a new tab. Or I want to be able to choose what sites display more easily. Maybe an "Add to tab page" option on bookmarks?" | |||
'''Home page:''' Generally unfavorable. Lots of confusing with new tab page. | |||
'''Bad:''' | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2994567] | |||
[http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2991117] | |||
'''Love it:''' | |||
* i liked the 'download' in the new home page, so i must not go to 'tools' first :) | |||
* the new homepage layout is sleek and easy to get to settings and addons | |||
* I liked the new tab :D and the new "about:home" page !! Keep it up with your fire firefox !! :D :D | |||
== Roundtable == | == Roundtable == | ||
* | * Update on [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/Rapid_Betas#Project_Status health/status of daily beta builds] | ||
** Rapid Betas will be delayed by 6 weeks currently due to long pole (RelEng and QA/Automation) schedule risk because of higher priorities | |||
** All groups should now be targeting 8/28 for our first daily build off of mozilla-beta | |||
** We'll continue to help with planning, and will communicate schedule risk to all groups as soon as we know | |||
=== Possible 13.0.1 Issues === | |||
Drivers: | |||
* {{bug|762170}} – Windows Messenger does not load within hotmail.com | |||
* {{bug|736731}} – Hotmail no longer auto-updates (due to "globalStorage" removal) | |||
In-code ride-alongs: | |||
* {{bug|709860}} – OOM crash in nsIDNService::Init @ mozilla::Preferences::GetBranch | |||
* {{bug|762062}} – Firefox startup crash in JS_HoldPrincipals (Correlation to Skype 6.0.0.10201) | |||
* {{bug|733614}} – CSS 'height' property on a multi-column block is not respected | |||
* {{bug|756277}} – XMLHttpRequest started from Cc["@mozilla.org/xmlextras/xmlhttprequest;1"] ends up bound to some random window | |||
Other ride-alongs that we could hotfix for: | |||
* {{bug|756850}} – Some combinations of Hebrew vowels and consonants not displayed in certain fonts with harfbuzz | |||
* {{bug|762162}} – Cannot connect to Gmail with SPDY on | |||
No longer an issue: | |||
* {{bug|761598}} – crash in RapportTanzan13 with Trusteer Rapport and LastPass | |||
* {{bug|681521}} – Firefox Crash [@ JS_GetContextPrivate ] (correlated to Trusteer Rapport) | |||
=== Flash 11.3 Issues === | |||
Crashes: | |||
* {{bug|763237}} – Firefox crash in npswf32_11_3_300_257.dll@0x2ff5eb | |||
Experience: | |||
* {{bug|759689}} – Flash content is not loaded using Flash 11.3 Beta | |||
* {{bug|763459}} – RealPlayer Browser record plugin breaks Youtube since Fx13 | |||
* {{bug|763387}} – IME doesn't work with Flash Player 11.3 with Protected Mode enabled | |||
* {{bug|762948}} – Repainting issue of Flash content when scrolling with Flash Player 11.3.300.257 | |||
Other: | |||
* Can we determine whether [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=743699%2C726425%2C561019%2C693872%2C740962%2C693872%2C709570%2C581272%2C;list_id=3391184 these bugs] we plan to bring up with Adobe affect 11.3 as well? | |||
== Actions == | == Actions == | ||
* Alex to confirm whether testing on 10.8 (RelEng work) is a priority now that signing is complete and we have manual testing in QA | |||
== Triage == | == Triage == | ||
=== Aurora Queries === | === Aurora Queries === |
Latest revision as of 21:18, 12 June 2012
Channel Meeting Details
- Tuesdays and Thursday - 2:00pm PDT, 21:00 UTC
- Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
- irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
Video/Teleconference Details - NEW
- 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 99951 (US/INTL)
- 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 99951 (US)
- Vidyo Room: Release Coordination
- Vidyo Guest URL
Previous Actions
Schedule Update
- We are in our second week of the cycle - Firefox 14 Beta 7 and Fennec Native Beta 7 will both be going to build this afternoon
- Please continue to prioritize tracked FF14 bugs over tracked FF15 bugs over work landing on m-c
- The FF13 post-mortem will be held next Tuesday at 9AM PT
Add-ons
- bug 764087 – Please remove blocklist of afurladvisor@anchorfree.com on FF13
Stability
Aurora
- bug 753248 crash in coreclr with Silverlight applications with builds made on OS X 10.7 (Lion)
- Shows Firefox as unaffected for 14 but crashes in Firefox 14 b1 are in crash stats.
Beta
Release
QA
QAwanted
- bug 746036 - exploratory testing needed with yahoo/trustee
- bug 761990 - feedback button not displayed correctly
Verification Needed
Aurora
Beta
- bug 759689, bug 763459 - Real Player prevent Flash 11.3 from loading
RelEng
Marketing/Communications
Have put Fx13 comms on hold while we're considering chem spill (Facebook, Twitter, Email)
Support
Input isn't showing feedback for pre-release versions, so release feedback: (Trying to get it fixed for thursday).
Issues
Flash crash/won't load: 7 of our top 20 forum issues are flash [1] [2] [3]
Hotmail inbox/loading: [4] [5] [6] [7]
Yahoo forced to sign in over and over: [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]
SPDY Issues: [13] [14] [15] [16] [17]
Thumbnails are blank: Possibly just a user education issue [18] [19] [20] [21] [22]
Features
New Tab: Generally unfavorable due in part to user education as displayed here "I submitted sad feedback because I want blank page when opening new tab. Should have read help first. Past history now turned off now very happy thanks Firefox"
Love it: 10%
- Hey, Your new view with the tabs, I love it! I switched to Safari b/c of this, but now I'm back! Great change!
- Love the new tab setup!!! Smart/great thinken
- the new tab feature is GREAT
- Firefox just updated and when I went to open a new tab I saw the new feature where the sites I visit frequently are displayed on the screen as an option to be selected from. What a great idea it is to include this. Thanks.
Improvements: 10% "Can we make the new tab interface more configurable? I want the option to load my home page when opening a new tab. Or I want to be able to choose what sites display more easily. Maybe an "Add to tab page" option on bookmarks?"
Home page: Generally unfavorable. Lots of confusing with new tab page.
Love it:
- i liked the 'download' in the new home page, so i must not go to 'tools' first :)
- the new homepage layout is sleek and easy to get to settings and addons
- I liked the new tab :D and the new "about:home" page !! Keep it up with your fire firefox !! :D :D
Roundtable
- Update on health/status of daily beta builds
- Rapid Betas will be delayed by 6 weeks currently due to long pole (RelEng and QA/Automation) schedule risk because of higher priorities
- All groups should now be targeting 8/28 for our first daily build off of mozilla-beta
- We'll continue to help with planning, and will communicate schedule risk to all groups as soon as we know
Possible 13.0.1 Issues
Drivers:
- bug 762170 – Windows Messenger does not load within hotmail.com
- bug 736731 – Hotmail no longer auto-updates (due to "globalStorage" removal)
In-code ride-alongs:
- bug 709860 – OOM crash in nsIDNService::Init @ mozilla::Preferences::GetBranch
- bug 762062 – Firefox startup crash in JS_HoldPrincipals (Correlation to Skype 6.0.0.10201)
- bug 733614 – CSS 'height' property on a multi-column block is not respected
- bug 756277 – XMLHttpRequest started from Cc["@mozilla.org/xmlextras/xmlhttprequest;1"] ends up bound to some random window
Other ride-alongs that we could hotfix for:
- bug 756850 – Some combinations of Hebrew vowels and consonants not displayed in certain fonts with harfbuzz
- bug 762162 – Cannot connect to Gmail with SPDY on
No longer an issue:
- bug 761598 – crash in RapportTanzan13 with Trusteer Rapport and LastPass
- bug 681521 – Firefox Crash [@ JS_GetContextPrivate ] (correlated to Trusteer Rapport)
Flash 11.3 Issues
Crashes:
- bug 763237 – Firefox crash in npswf32_11_3_300_257.dll@0x2ff5eb
Experience:
- bug 759689 – Flash content is not loaded using Flash 11.3 Beta
- bug 763459 – RealPlayer Browser record plugin breaks Youtube since Fx13
- bug 763387 – IME doesn't work with Flash Player 11.3 with Protected Mode enabled
- bug 762948 – Repainting issue of Flash content when scrolling with Flash Player 11.3.300.257
Other:
- Can we determine whether these bugs we plan to bring up with Adobe affect 11.3 as well?
Actions
- Alex to confirm whether testing on 10.8 (RelEng work) is a priority now that signing is complete and we have manual testing in QA