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== [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=j41a8ne525ml0heaipg0idb6is@group.calendar.google.com Travel / PTO] == | == [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=j41a8ne525ml0heaipg0idb6is@group.calendar.google.com Travel / PTO] == | ||
* | * jammink at B2G work week, Sao Paulo, Aug 26 - September 1 | ||
* juanb: Aug 23 - Sept 2; vacation. | |||
* Tchung paternity for 4 weeks. | |||
* nhirata : aug 15 ~ aug 20 vacay | |||
* camd - Aug 15 - Aug 22 | |||
* jsmith: Aug 23 - 27 PTO | |||
== QA Team Updates == | == QA Team Updates == | ||
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=== Desktop (Juan) === | === Desktop (Juan) === | ||
* Firefox | * Firefox | ||
** | ** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_15/Test_Plan#On_Call On Call Plan for Firefox 15 release] | ||
** Firefox 15.0b5 shipping this Friday | |||
* ESR (ashughes) | * ESR (ashughes) | ||
** | ** | ||
* Stability (marcia) | * Stability (marcia) | ||
** | ** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-08-14#Desktop Desktop Stability Report for this week] | ||
** New Version of Flash 11.3 shipped yesterday. | |||
** Please run the latest 11.4 beta from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11-4/ and report any bugs you find | |||
* Automation (ashughes) | * Automation (ashughes) | ||
** | ** | ||
* Sync Client (Tracy) | * Sync Client (Tracy) | ||
** | ** A very small non-front end client side train rolled out Monday. | ||
* App WebRT (Jason/Aaron) | * App WebRT (Jason/Aaron) | ||
** What happened this week? | ** What happened this week? | ||
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** | ** | ||
* Fennec (Kevin/Aaron) | * Fennec (Kevin/Aaron) | ||
** | ** [https://intranet.mozilla.org/Mobile_Team_Meet_Up_August_2012 Mobile work week in Boston], product/dev planning 15+ and beyond | ||
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/15/Beta/5 15.0 Beta 5] | |||
** Stability (nhirata) | ** Stability (nhirata) | ||
*** | *** | ||
* B2G (Geo/jhammink) | * B2G (Geo/jhammink) | ||
** | ** Daily Smoketest (process) running smoothly; currently 6 open blockers in latest | ||
** Gaia apps and System test plan taking shape | |||
*** please use new template format if you're onboarding and/or owning a test area: http://bit.ly/PdyKcZ Please do not deviate from the template! | |||
*** basic rule here is 1 test per row; one column per build - do not nuke additional rows/columns because these might be needed for calculation | |||
** Discussions happening re: security/perms testing requirements, methodology. Hope to nail stuff down next week at WebAPI work week | |||
** Rough draft of on-device plan here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/QA/WebAPI_Test_Plan/On_Device -- need to fill in existing exercises and gauge testing gap | |||
** First draft on Contacts API plan up: https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/QA/WebAPI_Test_Plan/Contacts | |||
* Pancake (nhirata) | * Pancake (nhirata) | ||
** | ** | ||
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=== Services (jbonacci) === | === Services (jbonacci) === | ||
* Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm): [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Sync/ Sync Server] | * Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm): [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Sync/ Sync Server] | ||
** | ** TokenServer work continues in Dev and Stage | ||
*** Includes BID and ToS requirements for Production | |||
** AITC work continues in Dev and Stage | |||
** Sync + MetLog work continues in Dev and Stage | |||
* BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm): [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/BrowserID BrowserID] | * BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm): [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/BrowserID BrowserID] | ||
** | ** Train 33: Bug 779264 - browserid: QA and deploy BrowserID train-2012.07.30 to production | ||
*** Version: 5cfd2d9 update ChangeLog and version with fix for issue #2206 | |||
*** NOTE: This is off of an AWS/ephemeral deploy. Stage is isolated for the BID "DevOps" team to debug. | |||
** QA is working with the BID "Stabilization" team to help establish controls for functionality, compatibility, and stability across trains. | |||
** Train 34 is coming this Friday and should take us to end of August. | |||
** Persona Beta release date is now set for 2012.09.18 (formal announcement date) | |||
* Community Members Onboarding | * Community Members Onboarding | ||
** | ** Leah (klrmn) continues to offer her help for BID automation alongside BID Dev and WebQA. | ||
* Hiring and Training | * Hiring and Training | ||
** | ** Recruiting has started phone screening candidates again for Services QA. | ||
=== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Execution/Web_Testing/Meetings/2012 Web (Stephen)] === | === [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Execution/Web_Testing/Meetings/2012 Web (Stephen)] === | ||
* Adi is leaving us after this Friday, the 17th :-( | |||
** Huge thanks for all his contributions (Marketplace, Grid, Community); we look forward to more as he returns to his final semester | |||
* Affiliates | * Affiliates | ||
** | ** 2012-08-15 Prod outage due to MySQL server being run as read-only when Zeus was did not restart properly - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782994 bug 782994] | ||
* AMO | * AMO | ||
** | ** [http://cl.ly/331R1c0f3S1n 2012-08-15] is going live 08/16 | ||
* BrowserID | * BrowserID | ||
** | ** Working with Leah + Identity dev team to help stabilize tests | ||
* Mozilla.com | * Mozilla.com | ||
** | **No updates | ||
* Mozillians | * Mozillians | ||
** | ** No updates | ||
* MDN | * MDN | ||
** | ** working on next release http://scrumbu.gs/projects/mdn/2012-08-22/ | ||
* Socorro | * Socorro | ||
** | ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced;target_milestone=18;product=Socorro;list_id=4045393 Milestone 18 (the MoBeta)] is on our staging env for the next 2-weeks for QA | ||
* SUMO | * SUMO | ||
** Continuous Deployment; smooth sailing | ** Continuous Deployment; smooth sailing | ||
* Community Members Onboarding | * Community Members Onboarding | ||
** | ** New community member: https://github.com/casschin -- already done a [https://github.com/mozilla/mcom-tests/pull/75 Mozilla.org pull] | ||
=== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/QA_Community Community] (Marcia) === | === [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/QA_Community Community] (Marcia) === | ||
* Projects | * Projects | ||
** | ** Update on Syracuse University Project | ||
** Posting tasks to QMO - [rbillings] | |||
*** [https://quality.mozilla.org/tag/job-board/ https://quality.mozilla.org/tag/job-board/] | |||
** marcia investigating a new tool that the People team thinks might help with community building | |||
* Upcoming Events | * Upcoming Events | ||
** | ** MozCamp EU rapidly approaching - September 8-9 | ||
*** Will need someone to run the Testing B2G Desktop Builds 60 minute session | |||
** Just a reminder: iOS CD Integration & Getting Faster Feedback from your CD System; meetup | |||
*** http://www.meetup.com/Continuous-Delivery-San-Francisco/events/76879172/ -- Wednesday, September 12, 2012 | |||
* Testdays (ashughes) | * Testdays (ashughes) | ||
** [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/08/flash-beta-testday/ Flash Beta Test Day] | ** [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/08/flash-beta-testday/ Flash Beta Test Day] | ||
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** | ** | ||
* QMO.next (Raymond): | * QMO.next (Raymond): | ||
** | **no update | ||
* Community Members Onboarding | * Community Members Onboarding | ||
** item | ** item | ||
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=== [[Auto-tools/Automation_Development/Meetings|Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)]] === | === [[Auto-tools/Automation_Development/Meetings|Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)]] === | ||
==== General ==== | ==== General ==== | ||
* | * [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/mozilla.dev.automation/0CutdjaPk70 Automation development meeting has been rescheduled] | ||
* Dave gave a talk on how Mozilla uses Selenium at [http://techmeetup.co.uk/ TechMeetup] in Edinburgh. There's a video of the talk available [http://vimeo.com/47302126 here]. | |||
==== Projects ==== | ==== Projects ==== | ||
* | * MemChaser 0.4 will be released today | ||
* MozDownload 1.2 will be released today | |||
===== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM MozTrap] (Cameron) ===== | ===== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM MozTrap] (Cameron) ===== | ||
* | * Matt Brandt is looking into BIRT for the new moztrap report for B2G | ||
* I was contacted by a tester at "Backstop Solutions" interested in doing some development on MozTrap. I'm in contact with him and will help him with his pull requests. | |||
===== Community Members Onboarding ===== | ===== Community Members Onboarding ===== | ||
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== Other Roundtable/Discussion Items == | == Other Roundtable/Discussion Items == | ||
* https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q32012_QAgoals - Looks as if some teams do not have goals listed, and top level goals are not there [marcia] | * https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q32012_QAgoals - Looks as if some teams do not have goals listed, and top level goals are not there [marcia] | ||
** Rolling QA goals up to the top level Mozilla goals | |||
* New Meeting time survey: http://whenisgood.net/newqastaff | |||
** Monday, Tues and Wed we have standing 11 AM Pacific Meetings | |||
** Potential Pacific Available times for staff might be: | |||
*** Monday 9 AM, 10 AM, 12 PM | |||
*** Tuesday 9 AM, 10 AM, 12 PM | |||
*** Wednesday 9 AM, 10 AM, 12 PM | |||
*** Thursday 10 AM, 11 AM, 12 PM | |||
*** Friday 9 AM, 10 AM, 11 AM, 12 PM | |||
* Incremental slices [bmoss] | |||
* Sitting on the sidelines [bmoss] | |||
* See marcia if you have B2G phone requests | |||
** We will soon have a spreadsheet where we will track all the devices | |||
* Team Mailing Lists [marcia] | |||
** What are teams using for mailing lists? Are the current lists posted on QMO? | |||
* Seeking volunteer to record the weekly QA meetings | |||
** Steps are documented on the intranet, need a volunteer to initiate the recording each week (requested by satdav in IRC) | |||
== Notes, Takeaways and Action Items == | == Notes, Takeaways and Action Items == | ||
=== Today === | === Today === | ||
* | ====Notes==== | ||
** | * Rebecca reported on posting tasks on QMO. This is an experiment | ||
* WebQA takeaway is that Server and two quick tasks is what most people want | |||
* 1:1 ratio Community: Full time staff on WebQA if we can the force multiplier QA will prosper | |||
*Being more visible: | |||
**Report what you are working on | |||
**Report what you are worried about | |||
**"devwanted" | |||
**if you already do it, do it more | |||
*QA'ing the requirements is what Krupa is doing, and what Web API plans on doing. | |||
*We should record the weekly staff meeting since it is likely that we will not find a time that will work well for everyone. | |||
====Action items==== | |||
*Create wiki page for team mailing lists [marcia] | |||
*jhammink driving the flashing station clarification | |||
*geo to send mail to tchung regarding goals | |||
=== Last Meeting === | === Last Meeting === | ||
* Action Items | * Action Items | ||
** | ** |
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QA Staff Meeting Notes Aug-15-2012
Meeting Details
# Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core # # Vidyo: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=UK1zyrd7Vhym # Phone: +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL) # +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US Toll Free) # +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 (Canada) # IRC: irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa
QA Org Items
- New Hires & Interviews
- item
- item
- Upcoming Events/Conferences
- item
Travel / PTO
- jammink at B2G work week, Sao Paulo, Aug 26 - September 1
- juanb: Aug 23 - Sept 2; vacation.
- Tchung paternity for 4 weeks.
- nhirata : aug 15 ~ aug 20 vacay
- camd - Aug 15 - Aug 22
- jsmith: Aug 23 - 27 PTO
QA Team Updates
Desktop (Juan)
- Firefox
- On Call Plan for Firefox 15 release
- Firefox 15.0b5 shipping this Friday
- ESR (ashughes)
- Stability (marcia)
- Desktop Stability Report for this week
- New Version of Flash 11.3 shipped yesterday.
- Please run the latest 11.4 beta from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11-4/ and report any bugs you find
- Automation (ashughes)
- Sync Client (Tracy)
- A very small non-front end client side train rolled out Monday.
- App WebRT (Jason/Aaron)
- What happened this week?
- What's next?
- What happened this week?
- Community
- item
Mobile (Tony)
- Issues
- Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)
- Mobile work week in Boston, product/dev planning 15+ and beyond
- 15.0 Beta 5
- Stability (nhirata)
- B2G (Geo/jhammink)
- Daily Smoketest (process) running smoothly; currently 6 open blockers in latest
- Gaia apps and System test plan taking shape
- please use new template format if you're onboarding and/or owning a test area: http://bit.ly/PdyKcZ Please do not deviate from the template!
- basic rule here is 1 test per row; one column per build - do not nuke additional rows/columns because these might be needed for calculation
- Discussions happening re: security/perms testing requirements, methodology. Hope to nail stuff down next week at WebAPI work week
- Rough draft of on-device plan here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/QA/WebAPI_Test_Plan/On_Device -- need to fill in existing exercises and gauge testing gap
- First draft on Contacts API plan up: https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/QA/WebAPI_Test_Plan/Contacts
- Pancake (nhirata)
- Community Members Onboarding
- item
Services (jbonacci)
- Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm): Sync Server
- TokenServer work continues in Dev and Stage
- Includes BID and ToS requirements for Production
- AITC work continues in Dev and Stage
- Sync + MetLog work continues in Dev and Stage
- TokenServer work continues in Dev and Stage
- BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm): BrowserID
- Train 33: Bug 779264 - browserid: QA and deploy BrowserID train-2012.07.30 to production
- Version: 5cfd2d9 update ChangeLog and version with fix for issue #2206
- NOTE: This is off of an AWS/ephemeral deploy. Stage is isolated for the BID "DevOps" team to debug.
- QA is working with the BID "Stabilization" team to help establish controls for functionality, compatibility, and stability across trains.
- Train 34 is coming this Friday and should take us to end of August.
- Persona Beta release date is now set for 2012.09.18 (formal announcement date)
- Train 33: Bug 779264 - browserid: QA and deploy BrowserID train-2012.07.30 to production
- Community Members Onboarding
- Leah (klrmn) continues to offer her help for BID automation alongside BID Dev and WebQA.
- Hiring and Training
- Recruiting has started phone screening candidates again for Services QA.
Web (Stephen)
- Adi is leaving us after this Friday, the 17th :-(
- Huge thanks for all his contributions (Marketplace, Grid, Community); we look forward to more as he returns to his final semester
- Affiliates
- 2012-08-15 Prod outage due to MySQL server being run as read-only when Zeus was did not restart properly - bug 782994
- AMO
- 2012-08-15 is going live 08/16
- BrowserID
- Working with Leah + Identity dev team to help stabilize tests
- Mozilla.com
- No updates
- Mozillians
- No updates
- MDN
- working on next release http://scrumbu.gs/projects/mdn/2012-08-22/
- Socorro
- Milestone 18 (the MoBeta) is on our staging env for the next 2-weeks for QA
- SUMO
- Continuous Deployment; smooth sailing
- Community Members Onboarding
- New community member: https://github.com/casschin -- already done a Mozilla.org pull
Community (Marcia)
- Projects
- Update on Syracuse University Project
- Posting tasks to QMO - [rbillings]
- marcia investigating a new tool that the People team thinks might help with community building
- Upcoming Events
- MozCamp EU rapidly approaching - September 8-9
- Will need someone to run the Testing B2G Desktop Builds 60 minute session
- Just a reminder: iOS CD Integration & Getting Faster Feedback from your CD System; meetup
- http://www.meetup.com/Continuous-Delivery-San-Francisco/events/76879172/ -- Wednesday, September 12, 2012
- MozCamp EU rapidly approaching - September 8-9
- Testdays (ashughes)
- Video Work
- QMO.next (Raymond):
- no update
- Community Members Onboarding
- item
Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)
General
- Automation development meeting has been rescheduled
- Dave gave a talk on how Mozilla uses Selenium at TechMeetup in Edinburgh. There's a video of the talk available here.
Projects
- MemChaser 0.4 will be released today
- MozDownload 1.2 will be released today
MozTrap (Cameron)
- Matt Brandt is looking into BIRT for the new moztrap report for B2G
- I was contacted by a tester at "Backstop Solutions" interested in doing some development on MozTrap. I'm in contact with him and will help him with his pull requests.
Community Members Onboarding
- item
Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items
- <add item>
Other Roundtable/Discussion Items
- https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q32012_QAgoals - Looks as if some teams do not have goals listed, and top level goals are not there [marcia]
- Rolling QA goals up to the top level Mozilla goals
- New Meeting time survey: http://whenisgood.net/newqastaff
- Monday, Tues and Wed we have standing 11 AM Pacific Meetings
- Potential Pacific Available times for staff might be:
- Monday 9 AM, 10 AM, 12 PM
- Tuesday 9 AM, 10 AM, 12 PM
- Wednesday 9 AM, 10 AM, 12 PM
- Thursday 10 AM, 11 AM, 12 PM
- Friday 9 AM, 10 AM, 11 AM, 12 PM
- Incremental slices [bmoss]
- Sitting on the sidelines [bmoss]
- See marcia if you have B2G phone requests
- We will soon have a spreadsheet where we will track all the devices
- Team Mailing Lists [marcia]
- What are teams using for mailing lists? Are the current lists posted on QMO?
- Seeking volunteer to record the weekly QA meetings
- Steps are documented on the intranet, need a volunteer to initiate the recording each week (requested by satdav in IRC)
Notes, Takeaways and Action Items
Today
Notes
- Rebecca reported on posting tasks on QMO. This is an experiment
- WebQA takeaway is that Server and two quick tasks is what most people want
- 1:1 ratio Community: Full time staff on WebQA if we can the force multiplier QA will prosper
- Being more visible:
- Report what you are working on
- Report what you are worried about
- "devwanted"
- if you already do it, do it more
- QA'ing the requirements is what Krupa is doing, and what Web API plans on doing.
- We should record the weekly staff meeting since it is likely that we will not find a time that will work well for everyone.
Action items
- Create wiki page for team mailing lists [marcia]
- jhammink driving the flashing station clarification
- geo to send mail to tchung regarding goals
Last Meeting
- Action Items