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* <del>mconnor and damons to review M9 blocker lists and report back at Gecko meeting tomorrow with estimates of when we could ship a decent Beta 1.</del>
* <del>mconnor and damons to review M9 blocker lists and report back at Gecko meeting tomorrow with estimates of when we could ship a decent Beta 1.</del>
* mconnor and sayrer to break up tabbrowser optimization patch and co-ordinate landings
* mconnor and sayrer to break up tabbrowser optimization patch and co-ordinate landings
** underway, carry-over to next week


=== Schedule ===
=== Schedule ===
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=== Work in progress ===
=== Work in progress ===
* Web-based protocol handling (PH team)
* Web-based protocol handling (PH team)
* On track; [http://tinyurl.com/3al9cq 2-3 M9 blockers] remaining
** On track; [http://tinyurl.com/3al9cq 2-3 M9 blockers] remaining


* Microformats (mkaply)
* Microformats (mkaply)
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* Session Restore
* Session Restore
** '''action:''' beltzner to hook up with dietrich about getting out in front of changes to session restore for perf optimization


* Download Manager
* Download Manager
** Edward Lee has been doing a lot of work fixing edge cases and polish
** Further rev of UI for polish based on Madhava's stuff, some dependencies on apps that share from toolkit


* Password Manager (dolske)
* Password Manager (dolske)
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* Security, Privacy, Identity
* Security, Privacy, Identity
* SafeBrowsing protocol is undergoing changes, dcamp and others collaborating with them to ensure that Firefox is up to speed and that the protocol changes don't degrade the experience for users
* Broken SSL certificates
** Bob Lord has blogged about how to share exceptions: http://boblord.livejournal.com/18402.html
** need to collect & roundup data points on where people are hitting broken certs & self-signed


* Installer
* Installer
** everything but 1 P2 PRD item is in progress and under control


* User Experience
* User Experience
** beltzner has a full ui-review queue, will try to clear
** if beltzner is blocking you, please yell at beltzner!


* Theming/Visual Makeover
* Theming/Visual Makeover
** see [http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/10/10/the-firefox-3-visual-refresh-system-integration Alex's blog post] for some goals and direction
** reaction by Linux was initially negative, but when we made it clear that there's a {{bug|381206}} for GTK native theme updates, became positive and lots of work being done there


=== Security Review ===
=== Security Review ===
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* Suggested order for review
* Suggested order for review
** Password Manager ([http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dolske/Password_Manager_Security_Review done])
** Password Manager ([http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dolske/Password_Manager_Security_Review done])
** Offline Apps ''(done?) I could have sworn that this was stated as "done" by several people at last weeks meeting. R.S.''
** Offline Apps ''([ done])''
** Places ''(when will you be ready?)''
** Web Content Handlers (dmose)
** Web Content Handlers
** Microformats (mkaply)
** Microformats
** RSS (sayrer)
** RSS
** Add-Ons (rob_strong)
** Add-Ons  
** Places (dietrich)
** Cross-domain XMLHttpRequest
** Cross-domain XMLHttpRequest - Done.
** Distribution/Customization
** Distribution/Customization
** ContentEditable
** ContentEditable
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=== Round table ===
=== Round table ===
* Documentation continues to make great progress.  The only major areas remaining in need of documentation are Places and microformats, with a few other smaller areas left to cover as well.  Please check the [[Firefox3/Documentation_Plan|documentation plan]] and the list of bugs tagged as [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL+dev-doc-needed dev-doc-needed] to be sure the stuff you care about is scheduled to be documented.
* we should video blog/screencast more as a way of illustrating new features in nightlies
* recent Tp regression isn't well understood, as everything's been backed out but the regression still exists, so something's strange there


== Gecko 1.9 Meeting ==
== Gecko 1.9 Meeting ==
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=-7d&chfieldto=Now&chfield=target_milestone&chfieldvalue=mozilla1.9+M9&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=1.9a1%2B&query_based_on=1.9a1%2B&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=blocking1.9%2B&field0-1-0=target_milestone&type0-1-0=equals&value0-1-0=mozilla1.9+M9 Beta blockers added in the past week.]
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=-7d&chfieldto=Now&chfield=target_milestone&chfieldvalue=mozilla1.9+M9&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=1.9a1%2B&query_based_on=1.9a1%2B&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=blocking1.9%2B&field0-1-0=target_milestone&type0-1-0=equals&value0-1-0=mozilla1.9+M9 Beta blockers added in the past week.]
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=-7d&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_status&chfieldvalue=RESOLVED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=1.9a1%2B&query_based_on=1.9a1%2B&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=blocking1.9%2B&field0-1-0=target_milestone&type0-1-0=equals&value0-1-0=mozilla1.9+M9 Beta blockers resolved in the past week.]
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=-7d&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_status&chfieldvalue=RESOLVED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=1.9a1%2B&query_based_on=1.9a1%2B&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=blocking1.9%2B&field0-1-0=target_milestone&type0-1-0=equals&value0-1-0=mozilla1.9+M9 Beta blockers resolved in the past week.]
* General feeling of beta readiness?
* What the hell is up with the tree?
* Freeze is still Oct 17.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/36160e9a56006f2a/b941a87dae24005e#b941a87dae24005e Blocker Focus?]
* MathML
 
** Outstanding issues: fonts+glyphs, reflow, attribute notifications, ...
* Late SVG patches: Mozilla evangelism group wants more focus on SVG (through tutorials, demos and squeezing in any low risk, positive value patches) to provide an alternative to Silverlight / Flash using Open Web tech. See http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:MarkFinkle/PushingSVG#SVG_Patches_in_the_Queue
* Offline Standard Changes (dcamp)
** Please take a look at the potential "1.9 patches" and think about the possibility of getting them into Gecko 1.9
** MFinkle will be traveling to Toronto during the Gecko conference call and won't be able to "lobby directly" - notes here or email to evangelism@mozilla.com would be helpful.


=== Blockers and Noms ===
=== Blockers and Noms ===
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* [http://people.mozilla.com/~timr/FF3.0/image004.png Stacked Noms]
* [http://people.mozilla.com/~timr/FF3.0/image004.png Stacked Noms]


=== GFX Update ===
=== Platform Round Table ===
 
* GFX Update
=== Layout Update ===
* Layout Update  
 
* Content Update  
=== Content Update ===
* Mac OS X Update  
 
* Platform/Build Tools Update
=== Mac OS X Update ===
 
=== Platform/Build Tools Update ===

Latest revision as of 23:33, 17 October 2007

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Firefox 3 Meeting

Meeting Details

  • Tuesdays - Firefox 3 - 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mozilla Building S - <script> conference room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x91 Conf# 217 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 217 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #granparadiso for backchannel

PRD Status Update

Open Action Items

  • Baz and Kev to deliver a wish list of partner customization for the installer and follow up with Rob Strong
  • mconnor and damons to review M9 blocker lists and report back at Gecko meeting tomorrow with estimates of when we could ship a decent Beta 1.
  • mconnor and sayrer to break up tabbrowser optimization patch and co-ordinate landings
    • underway, carry-over to next week

Schedule

  • code freeze date to be re-evaluated this week
  • M9 Blockers (subset of unassigned M9 blockers)
    • beta 1 criteria: safe for daily browsing, no glaring bugs/omissions in shipped features

Work in progress

  • Microformats (mkaply)
  • Session Restore
    • action: beltzner to hook up with dietrich about getting out in front of changes to session restore for perf optimization
  • Download Manager
    • Edward Lee has been doing a lot of work fixing edge cases and polish
    • Further rev of UI for polish based on Madhava's stuff, some dependencies on apps that share from toolkit
  • Password Manager (dolske)
  • Addons Manager (Rob Strong, Mossop, mwu)
    • 1 remaining M9 blocker which has patch and is awaiting review
    • Only 8 other blockers remaining
  • Security, Privacy, Identity
  • SafeBrowsing protocol is undergoing changes, dcamp and others collaborating with them to ensure that Firefox is up to speed and that the protocol changes don't degrade the experience for users
  • Broken SSL certificates
  • Installer
    • everything but 1 P2 PRD item is in progress and under control
  • User Experience
    • beltzner has a full ui-review queue, will try to clear
    • if beltzner is blocking you, please yell at beltzner!
  • Theming/Visual Makeover
    • see Alex's blog post for some goals and direction
    • reaction by Linux was initially negative, but when we made it clear that there's a bug 381206 for GTK native theme updates, became positive and lots of work being done there

Security Review

  • Design Review Proposal
  • Suggested order for review
    • Password Manager (done)
    • Offline Apps ([ done])
    • Web Content Handlers (dmose)
    • Microformats (mkaply)
    • RSS (sayrer)
    • Add-Ons (rob_strong)
    • Places (dietrich)
    • Cross-domain XMLHttpRequest - Done.
    • Distribution/Customization
    • ContentEditable
    • Private Browsing
    • Malware Protection

QA Status/Topics

  • Fx 3 Test Plan wiki
  • Working on M9 features and test plans. Lots landing, daily smoketests and trunk landing verifications.
  • Work continues on Feature Test Plans linked from the Firefox 3 Test Plan Wiki.
  • This week's testday topic is Places. If you're the dev on the feature, please come to #testday on friday to help with questions.

Build Topics

Localization Topics

Round table

  • Documentation continues to make great progress. The only major areas remaining in need of documentation are Places and microformats, with a few other smaller areas left to cover as well. Please check the documentation plan and the list of bugs tagged as dev-doc-needed to be sure the stuff you care about is scheduled to be documented.
  • we should video blog/screencast more as a way of illustrating new features in nightlies
  • recent Tp regression isn't well understood, as everything's been backed out but the regression still exists, so something's strange there

Gecko 1.9 Meeting

Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays - 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mozilla Building S - <script> conference room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x91 Conf# 217 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 217 (US)
  • join irc.mozilla.org #granparadiso for backchannel

General Discussion

  • Late SVG patches: Mozilla evangelism group wants more focus on SVG (through tutorials, demos and squeezing in any low risk, positive value patches) to provide an alternative to Silverlight / Flash using Open Web tech. See http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:MarkFinkle/PushingSVG#SVG_Patches_in_the_Queue
    • Please take a look at the potential "1.9 patches" and think about the possibility of getting them into Gecko 1.9
    • MFinkle will be traveling to Toronto during the Gecko conference call and won't be able to "lobby directly" - notes here or email to evangelism@mozilla.com would be helpful.

Blockers and Noms

Blockers report:

Platform Round Table

  • GFX Update
  • Layout Update
  • Content Update
  • Mac OS X Update
  • Platform/Build Tools Update
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