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Thunderbird Meeting Details

Agenda

Calls For Help

Action Items

New

Open

  • dmose - Draw up straw man schedule for shipping one month after Firefox.
  • dmose - Suggest to drivers about a new flag for potential post-TB3 blockers.
  • clarkbw - send mail about drivers about triaging 3.0b1 wanted this week
  • dmose - triage [tb3needs] bugs

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 2

  • For reference, Gecko 1.9.1b3: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.
  • clarkbw is release driver
  • gozer is build engineer
  • Proposed: Slushy string freeze from: Monday 2nd February 23:59 PST
  • Proposed: Firm string freeze and slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 5th February 23:59 PST

Thunderbird 3

QA Updates

  • topcrashes
    • bug 471492 crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::CopyMessagesOffline]
    • bug 422907 nsMsgLocalMailFolder::GetTrashFolder (rootFolder is null)
    • bug 470804 NS_GetInnermostURI (CAPS?) (TB2) (patch landed on trunk - not 1.9.1 or 1.8.x)
    • bug 470808 nsProxyEventObject::CallMethod (imap)
    • bug 470835 nsMsgLocalMailFolder::AddMessage (should be fixed in 12-23 nightly) (optimistically gone)
  • bugday, first of 2009 focused on trunk (we're losing ground on that front of the triage war)
  • litmus: we can now get reports of updated/new litmus tests for Thunderbird only, which will help us to manage updating of tests
  • crash-stats group has put up MTBF reports for milestone and development releases. It's still a work in progress. And there is a bug outstanding that causes 3.0b1 (and b2pre?) to not be shown. On the development view, MTBF of 3.0b2pre is stated as over 10x better than 3.0b1pre, but crash rate appears to be about the same. Also note the data may not be accurate for the entire user population, as we think it doesn't included data from users who have no crashes.

Roundtable

Status Updates

davida
dmose
nth10sd
  • Active discussions with Mozmill devs and Mark about the path of Mozmill moving forward.
  • Mapping of Litmus tests with Mozmill tests are being done here.
  • Looking at more Litmus tests to be converted to Mozmill tests.
  • Thunderbird bug progress through the years in a Rumbling Edge blog post.
jcranmer
Standard8

Non-goal activities:

  • Reviews
  • Trying to debug Mac random orange bug 462269, seem to have currently worked around the problem. Will observe over the next week or so.
  • Made a start on the next round of Card -> Contact changes, see bug 126491, need to revisit patch

Two week goals (Start of week 2):

  • Complete Password Manager migration
  • Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill (if Mozmill issues are resolved)
    • Still awaiting resolution (stalled over new year).
  • Investigate if there is a simpler way to switch fully to toolkit autocomplete without doing too much work.
    • Todo
  • Look at Performance tests
    • Get some rough ideas of what & how.
    • See if we can get a Ts structure in place (or something else)
      • This would be useful for jemalloc and assessing implementing a packages-static file for unix.
asuth
bienvenu

Two week goals (week 2)

  • Finish folder archiving work. bug 451995
    • made imap folders default to archive folder on imap server; made "Archives" localizable.
    • several dependent bugs fixed or awaiting review
      • respect personal namespace when creating imap folder under root, bug 470269
      • make addsubfolder notify for new imap folders, make sure root folder has hierarchy delimiter cached, bug 470151

Two week goals (week 1)

  • Try to knock off some beta 2 blockers between the holiday festivities
  • Get initial archive patch reviewed, perhaps in smaller chunks.
emre
  • Two week goals
    • Finalizing activity manager and activity manager integration of core components.
    • Implementing a two level auto-sync model for TB-Idle cases.
gozer
  • Personnal
    • On vacation: Jan 9th - Jan 16th (on call)
clarkbw
wsmwk
  • closed 33 bugs
  • filed more crashes, topcrashes
beckley
Penelope
KaiRo
rkent

I have soft tags working well enough now that I am running it as part of my normal email processing - though I have to run a custom TB build with several bug fixes to do that. I'm particularly pleased that the UI is so easy to use in the training. That is, once you turn on soft tagging for a particular tag, you then just continue to do manual tagging, including correcting of any tagging errors, and that does all of the training. I need to get any backend fixes into beta2 so that the TaQuilla soft-tagging extension can run with the standard release.

I will need to touch the Bayesian tokenizer to fix some issues that are arising in soft tagging (bug 472005). While I am at it I intend to revive my old spam corpus testing extension, and make some minor changes to the tokenization of headers, after I test to make sure that the changes are a net improvement in performance.

I am tempted to add the bayesian filter processing soon to RSS and newsgroups, as I can see that a big win for soft tagging would be to mark certain blogs or news posts as "interesting", and then only read soft-tagged "interesting" posts when pressed for time - or sort them in "interesting" order, and read the more interesting first. This would be really useful in things like planet.mozilla, where there are more regular posts than I have time to read.

rebron

Two Week Goal

  • Continued web site work, coordinate web site localization.
  • 2009 event planning.
  • Continue work on Support/Help plan.
sipaq
mkmelin

Attendees

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